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Background by SusanCoffey Background by SusanCoffey
Shot by Ross from CCG Models
Behind the scenes from our poster shoot!
Poster can be purchased at:
ccgmodels.com/store-2/#!/~/cat…

**This is taken with a point and shoot camera, It is merely a behind the scenes shot. If you don't understand what that means, here you go: it was not taken with composition in mind. It is just for fun, to document the shoot. If you wish to unfollow me, be my guest**
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nine-girls-red Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
This shot was behind the scenes, fair enough, but I have to agree with the people saying that her work overall doesn't really compare to when she first started. It's about time people stop fawning because Oooooh, pretty! She's worked with lots of photographers, and it's almost unanimously agreed that Insuh and Sito are the only ones who produced markedly impressive images. The only two photographers who really succeeded are also the only two photographers who are incapable of taking a bad photo. I mean seriously? The only constant in all of her recent work is herself as the model, but instead of directing critique at her, you're going to pretend that every single photographer just sucks? No, it's not all of those photographers, it's the one model that they all seemed to fail at shooting. Most of her uploads are well-done in all of the aspects for which the photographer is responsible. Good composition, focus, colors, wardrobe.. the only thing that isn't good is the model. But no, I'm sure it's just a sucky photographer.

It pisses me off that somebody with the kind of beauty that almost every woman in the world would give up years of their lifespan to have is just sitting on it. Clearly you can succeed to some extent just standing there looking pretty, because look at how many people fawn over her, but she shouldn't be catering to those people. Somebody who is so ridiculously blessed and who claims to want to do something with that blessing shouldn't settle for pleasing people who will drop their pants over nothing but a pretty face. Make your audience the people who actually have standards because otherwise you're never going to improve.

Honestly, at this point I don't know who I blame more for the deteriorating quality of Susan's portfolio (or of any model who starts to plateau)- the model, or the hundreds of people who kiss her ass as if she is doing everything right. If I could glance in the general direction of a camera and have people profess their love for me over it every day, then I'd do it too.

If you spoil somebody for doing nothing, then they will continue to do nothing. People need to stop kissing the pretty girl's ass and hold her to the same standard that they would hold anybody else, because all spoiling a model does is show them that they don't need a work ethic to succeed as long as laziness looks pretty on them.
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LoveLife25 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
I've just recently gone through all of her work and I have no idea what you're talking about. Her recent work is just as beautiful as her earlier work, it's just different styles.

These 2 images were next to each other on the side of my page, one is from 2 years ago and the photographer you mentioned and one is from the poster she did recently. sideshowsito.deviantart.com/ar… susancoffey.deviantart.com/art…

Her face, body and pose look just as stunning in both and in my opinion quite similar. Her face literally almost looks identical except she's tilting her head in opposite directions. She also doesn't look like she's aged a day. The only differences I can tell is that her hair was a lot more red back then, she was a little more pale and she's sitting on a bed in a much more sexualized setting and outfit with another very scantily dressed girl in the background. Actually all of the work from that photographer seems extremely sexualized.

It seems to me that the people who are criticizing are just people who prefer the much more sexualized versions of her modeling. That's fine, but understand that she doesn't have to please your specific preferences for her. She's her own person who clearly is doing something she loves because she loves it, not because she feels the need to please you or anyone else. You might prefer that style but she is free to model in any style that she chooses.

And she's gorgeous in them all!
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Devissing Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
Finally a person who agrees with me!
I think people these days only care about sexualized works,if they see something more natural is not that good anymore.
I hope she continues this way,I really like to see how Susan's natural beauty is :)
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nine-girls-red Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
She's going to be gorgeous in every picture she ever takes because she is gorgeous. I don't see why you're crediting her for the part of her modeling that her parents had more to do with than she does.

Clearly I'm not the only person who thinks she's gotten worse and I take offense to you accusing me of preferring her older, sexualized work. That's not only really ignorant but... Seriously? Look at the many sexualized shots in her new portfolio and tell me that again with a straight face.

Also I'm really commenting on here entire career with emphasis on the present because she no longer works with the only two photographers to get something special out of her so the flaws in her modeling have become obvious.
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LoveLife25 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
Not to make the same point again but I just came across this image from her earlier work with the photographer you said captured her the best. sideshowsito.deviantart.com/ar…

If you look at her upper body she has the exact same tilt of her head, face, mouth, and angle of her body as the recent photo I shared to compare. Hell, even her left arm is resting outward in a similar way! It's really just her hair and outfit that changes the style. Plus the extremely suggestive girl behind her who is also beautiful.

All I know is she is stunning, both then and now. Anyone who says otherwise is off their meds.
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LoveLife25 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
For some reason the second link I posted didn't load. Trying again. Seriously, look at them side by side. She looks almost identical aside from the outfit and hair. susancoffey.deviantart.com/art… sideshowsito.deviantart.com/ar…
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MeganCoffey Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013
Cute shot!
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DecimoPrimo Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Student Filmographer
Point-and-shoot or not, this is lovely for BTS
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EpicBoobs Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
LOVE YOU IN PLAID <3
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AuskaTarquinEireonus Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student Filmographer
Lovely Photo, I always love your work, and always will, keep up the great work Susan and good luck with your shoot.
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vince340515 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't know much about composition and the other stuff people are talking about in the comments. but I think this is really cool! I like the outfit, and the hair.
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Leanbb Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You are a worldwide known model with an enormous fanbase and you can't get yourself decent photographers to take your picture? What's up Susan?
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starboxxx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Lack of Effort.

A picture is worth 1000 words. This one to me is screaming " Im bored out of my mind "
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damoser Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
it's a behind the scenes shot, meaning shot by someone standing on the side, not the actual photographer.  but good job overreacting and being rude.
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Leanbb Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not talking about this particular image. I'm talking about what we've been seeing from her for a loooong time now. Look at her uploads from back then and the photos she uploads now and try to deny that the overall quality has gone down the gutter. I'm not being rude. I'm just being honest, and pointing out facts. I've been a fan of Susan for years and it makes me sad to have such a beautiful and talented model work with such mediocre "artists". If stating my honest opinion without being a suckup makes me rude, then I guess I am rude.
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damoser Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
i'll agree that compared to the older stuff, the recent photos have been hit or miss.  personally i prefer the stuff done by :iconsideshowsito:, but she hasn't worked with him for a while now.

sorry for the misunderstanding, i thought you were talking about that one particular photo.
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Leanbb Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm glad we agree. I also think that Susan and Sito Alvina were a KILLER combo. He's the one that took the photos of her that circulated the webs and turned her into an Internet Celebrity, after all. Such a pity...
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starboxxx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
If its someone by the side, WHY IS THE PHOTOGRAPHERS WATERMARK ON THE PHOTO. Behind the scenes shot or not, it shows an effortless , timid and BORED SUSAN COFFEY.

Standing there.

Lifeless.

Lacking.
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LoveLife25 Featured By Owner Oct 10, 2013
Most likely it's there because they want to connect the image to the project in case people post it on other locations. Makes sense with how often these images move around.
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damoser Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013
that's the company's watermark, and those are placed on everything having to do with a project by any of the employees.  the photographers name is on it, because the set was arranged by him so they made one watermark for that set and stuck it on everything, rather than making separate ones for each shot.  that's be too time consuming.

behind the scenes shots aren't supposed to look like the polished finished product you're used to, they're rough cuts.  the only behind the scenes that are polished are videos, but those are shot by a professional videographer with the intention of releasing to the public, they're not spontaneous like most behind the scenes photographs.

and if you use your imagination a little and place yourself in the position of the actual shoot photographer, who is clearly standing to the left of whoever shot this.  than you would be able to see that the scene here is not lifeless and lacking.  it just doesn't have a connection with the viewer at this angle.

at this angle the lighting is also off, because they are using the sun as backlighting, but from here it overpowers the image.  the person who shot this had two choices, get up close like this or stand behind the photographer.  neither is ideal for a portrait, hence the reason it's behind the scenes.

you have unrealistic expectations for this kind of image.  some turn out great, others not so great and that's fine because it not representative of the product that will be sold.
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brynisch Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
I'm afraid I too have been a bit disappointed by your work lately. ~starboxxx expresses herself a bit harsh in my opinion, but she does have a point.
I am aware this is a 'behind the scenes' shot so maybe I can't make a strong argument based on this photo, but it's not just this one.
I'm just saying that this isn't the Susan Coffey I once fell in love with.
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starboxxx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Sorry but sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

Again if we want Susan Coffey to get better with her work, She has to be able to get constructive feedback.
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nomads Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Unfortunately I have to agree with starboxxx.  This image is terrible, I cannot believe the composition and you look horrible.  I've been meaning to remove you from favorites for a while, I will be sure to do it as soon as I post this.
Good Luck
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starboxxx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Susan used to get easy 30,000 pageviews for her deviations and 100's of comments.

If Susan doesnt wake up. Itll all be downfall from here and from what i can tell its already snowballing.

Im just here to give warning cuz I can see it .

And if she has any self respect for herself she will realize I am right.
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HelenaRey Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
It's not her fault. She is still gorgeous and all but she is no longer working with Sito or Insuh who are (in some way) responsible for her jaw dropping shots. She is working with amateurs and less creative folks, nothing else.
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starboxxx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Ah but it is in a way, her fault. Why ? The problem with Susan Coffey is she just isn't making any effort with her work.

It's been 4 years since shes been in the scene and STILL she hasn't done anything that would define her as THE MODEL. THE WOMAN . You know, SUSAN COFFEY AT FULL POTENTIAL .

She was featured in a magazine and I thought wow shes raised the bar by really doing something about it only to find out shes hasn't done anything promising for herself onward !She has been given a gift other models would just to die for. Yet, she doesn't know how to  channel and MARKET herself. It kills me to think somoene who has a gift just isn't using it for her advantage when its all there for her . She just needs to go for it ! PUSH ! GO !

Now I would have to disagree with you Ankooru . Susan Coffey needs to realize it is up to HER and responsibility here and again from my observation, she just isn't trying hard enough.

Alright . Lets discuss two things that will make or break Susan Coffey :

I ) Quality of Photography - I agree. Susan Coffey's best work was with Insuh Yoon and Sito Alvina. While everything went downhill after that era, Susan needs to realize she has to improve her work BIGTIME. Contact other photographers. Take posing lessons. Join an agency ? It's always the same lifeless poses all the time. Oh and if its NOT the same, stiff & sometimes uncomfortable poses, she looks either super pissed off or you can tell she just doesn't wanna be there ! SIGH . So much potential that's going to waste !

II ) The Fan base - Susan has a mind blowing 29 MILLION PAGE VIEWS and 125,000 following on Facebook. Question is, Where is Susan for HER FANS ? I can understand she cant entertain everyone but if she really cared about the people who support here she would show some gratitude and reply once in a while . She barely updates and when she does she doesnt even care to get any interaction whatsoever . I know models who would die to be in Susan Coffey's spot light. Whereas, these hard working models  work their ass off with marketing & promoting themselves and most importantly CONNECTING WITH THEIR FANS simply by replying to them once in a while or even sending videos online to send their thanks. Susan does NOTHING to show any love to her fans . Really sad.

Some of you people don't realize this but Susan has a relative ( Cousin I think? ) who is on deviant-art and is also a model. She goes by the name Megan

megancoffey.deviantart.com/

Check her work out . She's got style. Shes got sass. And most importantly you can soooo tell shes making all the effort !!! Although she may not be as pretty as Susan ; I have to give her credit for keeping up, updating, replying to her fans and striving to be a better model each day.

Susan is the opposite . Lacking support TO HER FANS ... Lack of posing skill .
ULTIMATELY LACKING EFFORT AS A WHOLE. Here's an example ; Take a look at Megan Coffey's deviations and you will see her replying back to her fans here and there . Right ?

Now .

Look at SUSAN COFFEY's deviations . Tell me how many times has she gotten any interaction with her fans ? Surprise ! Surprise !?

Are you ready for the real shocker ????????? Look at Susan's Comment Statistics . It says 49 comments for the 4 years shes been on deviant-art . Megan Coffey has been giving out 2,190 comments FOR THE FIRST FUCKING YEAR SHES BEEN ON . What does that tell you !?! you see what i'm talking about?

ALRIGHT lets throw someone in the mix and conclude my point : The infamous Miss Mosh !

miss-mosh.deviantart.com/

Here's a hardworking  model who has risen to stardom and has made something out of herself and CLEARLY has been supported by her fans , to WHOM she fairly reciprocated back by giving back some lovin' ! <3

IF you look at her comment stats on deviant art shes provided 4,846 comments within the 4 years shes been on the DA community. Amazing !

WHAT THE F@KK  . SUSAN COFFEY GAVE 49 . SERIOUSLY

Shes been on deviant art for 4 years and shes given 49 COMMENTS . Can you people agree or am i the only one with the actual sense to voice out an opinion ?

You know I am so tired of false, sugar coated comments with everyone on here saying NOTHING but ass kissing messages to Susan like  " WE LOVE YOU . YOURE SOO PRETTY " ,. Yes we know this but this doesn't help Susan .

No one ever gives TRUE COMMENTS that actual help the artist get better at themselves.

Don't get me wrong. I am a fan and want to see Susan Coffey do amazing work. I am not here to start fights or put people down. But after seeing that photo she posted the other day I really felt the need to say something because boy, this REALLY SUCKS FOR SUSAN COFFEY and her legacy.

We want great Susan Coffey photos. Exciting, breathtaking images !

She HAD a great run while it lasted and who knows if we'll ever see mind blowing work like that again.  Does anyone know what happened ? How come Susan Coffey stopped working with them ( Insuh & Sito ? )
 
Susan, hear me out and if you're reading this I hope you can take my message constructively as fearless feedback and guidance. I am not here to pick fights with you. I am merely voicing out because no one seems to want to knock some sense into you.

I'd like to speak for the people agree with me and please, we don't want to see you fail .

Please think about it. Your lack of effort is getting you nowhere fast and it shows in your work

just

being

honest

<3
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HelenaRey Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I barely read what you said because I think you are taking this way too personally from me, :lol:
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Devissing Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Lol.i think you're pushing it too hard,man.
Look,my main language is not English,so I'll try my best to express myself. lol

Let's see,yes you have some facts there,and i'm not saying you're not right,but the thing is:

Point One: what if she's not working with Sito and Insuh anymore? You fans need to realize that she needs to try other things.You're used to the old style photos. I don't know if you understand what i mean,but she's not a little girl anymore. I think she really enjoys this new style and so do those people. The big thing is: while other models pick the best photos,susan coffey had all her photos exposed on the internet (on susancoffey.com). And I gotta say that's kinda stupid,but who am I to say what's good or not?

Point Three: She doesn't give you feedback. Wow,so you're mad because she doesn't give you feedback?
Most of the fans are just assholes who would give a finger to have a night with her.
Seriously,I think she should keep it that way,she's kinda shy, I totally understad how boring is to give feedback to all those men looking forward one simple feedback to die.
I have a GF and she actually kinda looks like Susan back those days when she was younger,I can see how intimidated and nauseated she stays with all those fake compliment.
Yes,she is a model,it's normal,blablabla,but it's not like she really needs too. A lot of good models don't ever reply to their fans,and if you really are a fan you should know she has some videos where she gives special thanks.

Point Four: I don't think Susan Coffey is good for model,anyways. She's really pretty,yeah,but she really doesn't know how to be one and that's when I say I totally agree with you.
But it's not because she doesn't give feedback and all those things,it's because she really doesn't seem to enjoy it at all...like you said. And there's nothing you can do if that's the truth. No matter how hard and explanatory you are,if she's not really into it,it doesn't matter.
So that's why i'm giving you this big feedback - that's susan coffey was,is,and that's how she should stay. If she really is doing it just as a hobby. :)

Overall,I think your (not just yours) expectations were to high for her and she's not the only pretty girl in the world,just because she has some good photos and a good looking face doesn't mean she needs to be like you want.
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Devissing Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Ops,i forgot the point two,hehe
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Devissing Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Point Two: she's not perfect. I do enjoy sito style and all,but I think it's too whimsy. You need to see her
imperfections too. As you see for example,her skin is not that white,and even if the photos are natural,they are edited in a really smart way. That's why you say her photos were better.
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LadyGorgon Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
statuary beauty! :* ♥
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starboxxx Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013
Susan . I hope you realize that the quality of your work has sadly depreciated and I find it puzzling how someone gifted with such beauty hasn't done anything to improve herself .

No offense but what happened ? You used to have such breathtaking photos and now all you have are these stagnant, hideously boring photographs.

Are you even taking your modelling seriously ?
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sa-cool Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Professional Photographer
nice! :)
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Suez-H3 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Professional Interface Designer
:) Tan o aun más hermosa que siempre. :D
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CarlosAE Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nice photo. And you and other team should be congratulated for obtaining the required donation you and your team receive from us. :clap:
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